Habs of 2008 > Cup Teams of the Red Wings and Oilers?

It's more of an event, I dont think we were voting because all of them deserved to be there, the nhl asked to vote for our favorite, and to vote often, which we are doing, any other team fabase could have done so. We're just showing our support for our team and I think they appreciate it, it's one shift on the ice for 30 seconds.

Looks like they've just added another security measure... CAPTCHA.

Geez that is really slowing me down LOL...But I am still gonna vote

That capcha thing is a pain. Its hard to tell between lower and uppercase letters and their 9's look like g's. I've misfired so many times already.

If that is bad enough I have to refresh 2 times before the image actually shows up...

I'm honestly surprised they didn't do so in the first place.



Gotta love the NHL servers!

Beat me to it WJ. Bizarre really; rather standard practice.

Helps explain the slowed pace now. I kinda suspect the 6 will all win if they don't roll back the auto-generated votes. We'll see.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008...tar-voting.html

Has anyone read this? Canadiens boosted by suspicious all-star voting...

I don't know if the RDS site link up there is this topic or not, but I thought it was rather amusing.

If that were all Pitt's players, it'd be fine because they're the "Best" with the most "popular" players...But because it's the Habs they assume that someone is cheating the numbers...

However, if someone is cheating the numbers, this will ruin the fan voting, and it probably won't be there any longer.

This is getting ridiculous, now all the media is picking up on us "cheating"...If they do subtract some votes all I know is that Koivu, Tanguay, Kovalev, Price, and Komisarek better still be in the lead.

... it would have to include some Dallas layer votes.

I can't even vote. I voted for the habs about 10 times yesterday, and now I am being told "access denied". I'm going to contact the NHL to voice my displeasure.

Well, Price already passed last years leader in like 2 days. Brodeur had 185k votes and Price has 210k already.


Last years numbers
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=8988&hubname=

this is some epic lulz...

looks like the script doesn't work anymore since they added CAPTCHA

It would be nice if both Saku and Mikko Koivu would be in the All-Star game.

Guys stop using the scripts and stuff... If they still work that is..... we've already got like 100,000k leads on 6 players, no need to use these methods.

We're giving the NHL a reason to play with vote count...

Shame on all you auto-voters. I'm sure that your boys Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay, Markov, Komisarek, and Price are extremely pleased to know that they are first in the ballotting because a computer kept voting for them. Fans who like to cut corners are the same fans who jump ship at first sign of a storm. Cheers to clever little computer geek who made this possible, you deserve a cookie for pissing off all true hockey fans who hold an Allstar game in their hearts as a night to see the best together on the ice. I hope they call a 'no goal' on all votes for Canadiens players.

The fans that used the scripts are pathetic and if it were up to me I'd ban those who posted them.

Are the text messages free to send ?

Now there's two new rules to prevent cheating:

"You may not vote more than once per minute. Please try again in a moment. (423366)"

"This question is for testing whether you are a human visitor and to prevent automated spam submissions."

Current Leaders

That should have been there from the beginning.

sa marche tu encore ça ? maintenant qu'il faut entré un code ?

http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nhl_e...m3pdUADuyHRpbZT

The CAPTCHA is really annoying because some of their characters are hard to read, and half the time I get one wrong.

I'm truly hoping that this isn't true. If that's the case, how low can Habs' fans fall? I'll find a place to hide if some of the fans are found guilty!

we should keep using the script but make it once every 5 minutes.

Yes, the NHL is too stupid to read comments on this board...

Pathetic.

The texts are free. Of course, with 'standard text messaging rates' that apply.

I get unlimited texting, so it's pretty much my new hobby to text in 'Canadiens'.

Haha. I voted 100 times today

Oh ... I hope I don't get charged, I've sent about 61 text votes already because that site just keep crashing and text'ing is way faster. I hope I don't get a huge bill. lol

It was posted on this forum and i am pretty sure it was used by some. The question is by how many and for how many votes?

Anyway, the all stars game is a joke. I used to like it when I was a child, now, not so much.

That's technically a breach of the user agreement I believe, so I strongly suggest not promoting it or using it.



I'm not sure if it was removed in the past (I haven't come across anything) but if anyone sees anything please report it or bring it to our attention through private message.

Actually they are encouraging multiple voting. Stopping it would be very easy considering they force you to log in.


There's no way to tell what is a bot and what is a human with the exception of if the number of votes is faster than a human could possibly do so. My guess is the NHL just says "we'll do it better from here on in" since removing votes would be very controversial.

The time limit is a good start, at a minimum it slows bots down so they can vote a maximum of just under 1500 times a day. The captcha is something the NHL should have had from the start. However, it still appears to me that they are using a pre-defined set of images instead of randomly generating them, meaning this can be broken fairly easily with some time (I'm not sure how many images there are). You may also see semi-automated scripts where you only need to enter the captcha.

In the end, this was stupidity on the NHL's part. They put absolutely no security measures to stop scripts up even after the whole Rory thing a couple of years ago.

Im not a computer freak so i could care less about the script, what works for me is, i vote then i hit the arrow to go back one page and vote again and again lol.

Anyway with the canadiens fans, im not worried a bit, they could start up every habs player counter back to 0 and at the end of the voting these players would still win by a few hundreds of thousands of votes.

They added an image verification code, I didn't read back to see if that had been mentioned. I've been voting an average of once a day, and I believe that is reasonable when multiple voting is encouraged and/or expected.

I'm disappointed that Hejduk and Sakic aren't even on the radar, but I'll keep voting for them. Campbell is up there, but too far behind, so I'm basically tossing those votes out lol. Lidstrom, Luongo/Nabokov and Zetterberg/Datsyuk are my other western picks and I've been mixing votes between them.

For the East, I've been voting for Tanguay/Kovalev/Koivu - Markov/Gonchar - Price, but I've thrown a couple of votes Komisarek's and Fleury's way.

I simply don't see Komisarek fitting in to an all star game. I'm a little worried he will hurt somebody to be honest. I hope he gets in and can manage to have fun while playing a lighter style, but I just don't see it going over well. People want to see high scores and no injuries and Komi blocks shots and plays rough.

I think that's an unfair statement, even though it compliments his work ethic. I'm pretty sure that he can tone it down and have fun with the rest of them if he got selected.

It looks like they took some votes away from the Canadiens,

These where the numbers last night...

KOIVU, Saku 196, 344
KOVALEV, Alex 195, 695
TANGUAY, Alex 193, 475
MARKOV, Andrei 210,411
KOMISAREK, Mike 195, 480
PRICE, Carey 211, 720

These where the numbers this morning...

KOIVU, Saku 183, 418
KOVALEV, Alex 181, 342
TANGUAY, Alex 180, 560
MARKOV, Andrei 196, 048
KOMISAREK, Mike 180, 995
PRICE, Carey 193, 886

yeah, me too I was suprised when I saw this. They lost about 25 000 votes each, because all habs player had more then 200 000 votes last night.

But it's not just for the habs player because Crosby is in fourth place with 68 000 and last nitgh Semin was there with 75 000. This is very strange.

Got my votes in .
GO HABS GO

Keep on voting, everyday LOL. I vote at least 100 times a day, it used to be more but now they have the 1 minute rule...

I am too, I just don't see him playing like an all star without those elements, you know what I mean? I still hope he makes it, but the rest is just my opinion and I simply can't get that fear out of my mind, I've tried!

I'd like to see Gonchar and Fleury there as well, but it's hard not to vote for Canadiens so I have to mix up votes every now and then.

Can you edit the script to do it very 60 seconds instead of 5?

Just stop using scripts! Its cheating...Vote like a true fan. I am not accusing you of using a script but come on how lazy are we these days?

gotta give credit to the detroit fans as well....
all three forwards in the lead, and a defensemen in the lead...

not as good as us habs fans but still pretty solid...

It will be hard to see Gonchar there, because he is supposed to be out for 4 to 6 months... and one the bottom of the voting ballot, it says:



And one wonders why they put him ON the ballot in first place.



It could also be because us Habs fans also voted for Detroit players

of course, but captchas normally supply reasonable security against scripts. Someone may break it at some point, but it should be safe for now.

Agreed Jet.

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I'm not really sure this constitutes anything illegal though. It's against the contest rules, but I don't believe it's against the law. Which is why I left up the original references to the Greasemonkey script, I didn't see it as necessarily breaking any of the board rules. Can breaking a contest rules where there is no financial gain to the breacher be considered illegal (any lawyers on here)?

Another interesting point, they never actually make you agree to the contest rules when you register or vote, just the generic NHL.com terms of service and privacy policy.

In any case, it's probably moot now since the script posted doesn't work.

I voted for an all habs lineup as well.I just hope they deserve it if they start,2 of the last 3 games they haven't looked like all stars.

Honestly I'm voting for them all even if they don't all totally deserve it. The NHL Fan Voting has never been "fair". Certain teams who can get people to vote have always had it biased in their favour (San Jose a couple years ago). The top players will still make the team as reserves, and if we can get all 6 Habs in there, why not? It will make the game more fun for us fans and be something extra for the Centennial year.

Not that I want to argue this on the open forum, but the way I read it from day one was that what's against NHL rules constitutes illegal activities as it is what governs this site.