hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE (hablover @ Nov 13 2008, 12:38 PM)

Yeah, you could submit only one person if you wanted to....i never fill out the west...
Thanks. I hate voting for players from other teams.
Innis_Mor
Nov 13 2008, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (Graeme @ Nov 13 2008, 11:43 AM)

I love the vote swapping idea.
Here's a proposed strategy:
- select Dallas (players are less 'deserving' than Wings players) to swap and generate a decent lead for both Habs (in particular) and Stars players
- Sit back and wait
- Wings players supporters will contact us as the Stars lead gets too much
- We then switch our swap over to the hard charging Wings supporters
- Stars supporters eventually catch on in a few days, and stop voting for Habs players, but by then it will be too late -- Wings supporters will be going full hog with us

QUOTE (hatethoseleafs @ Nov 13 2008, 12:39 PM)

Thanks. I hate voting for players from other teams.

Unless they are a Western team supporter agreeing to vote (in turn) for the players on the Habs, for the East (i.e. a swap arrangement) -- (
the enemy of my enemy is my friend)
bigsby
Nov 13 2008, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (dpolo @ Nov 13 2008, 05:03 PM)

Looks and sounds unrealistic (compare the numbers):
Forwards:
KOIVU, Saku - 103269
KOVALEV, Alex - 101698
TANGUAY, Alex - 100790
Next:
SEMIN, Alexander 51777
Defense:
MARKOV, Andrei - 109801
KOMISAREK, Mike - 103232
Next:
TIMONEN, Kimmo - 26564
Goalie:
PRICE, Carey - 112452
next:
LUNDQVIST, Henrik - 41157
The fans in Montreal really are crazy.

good grief. those are ridiculous numbers
and you can tell it's us because it looks like habs fans are voting for all the habs at the same time. it seems that only where there's a discrepency in the number of votes over 100k can you see where others might be voting.
hablover
Nov 13 2008, 01:51 PM
Even though we have a huge lead in the polls...we can't let up at all.
Semin and Ovechkin will start getting some huge numbers pretty soon.
Lobleas
Nov 13 2008, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (Innis_Mor @ Nov 13 2008, 08:22 AM)

Funny!! Well, I expect they're monitoring this web site themselves, and specifically this thread.

My fear is that we're going to see the NHL trump the valiant efforts of the Habs fans around the world and dictate the starting lineups.
tomzilla
Nov 13 2008, 02:00 PM
QUOTE (Hab @ Nov 13 2008, 03:54 PM)

Thanks to the general idiocy of the Habs' fanbase, the NHL has caught on.
Stop using the automated votes now. I'm embarrassed to be one of you people
how have they caught on?
HabSteve
Nov 13 2008, 02:01 PM
CITATION(Lobleas @ Nov 13 2008, 06:57 PM)

My fear is that we're going to see the NHL trump the valiant efforts of the Habs fans around the world and dictate the starting lineups.
Well, if I were someone in the nhl i would suggest them to announce an Habs starting lineup to commemorate their 100th anniversary and give something to the fans, without needing the votes. I don't think they would dictate the starting lineup and go against the fans votes, that would get alot of people pretty mad, I would think they understand whats going on, same goes to the players like Crosby or Ovechkin.
Lobleas
Nov 13 2008, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (HabSteve @ Nov 13 2008, 10:01 AM)

Well, if I were someone in the nhl i would suggest them to announce an Habs starting lineup to commemorate their 100th anniversary and give something to the fans, without needing the votes. I don't think they would dictate the starting lineup and go against the fans votes, that would get alot of people pretty mad, I would think they understand whats going on, same goes to the players like Crosby or Ovechkin.
Agreed, but I wouldn't put it past them to go around the fan vote, and just appoint the starting line up. The NHL want to be able to market Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, etc so I can just see it coming now. Its the whole point of an All-Star Game.
I hope I'm wrong.
hablover
Nov 13 2008, 02:11 PM
If they cancelled our votes or even some of them and we didn't get all 6 habs on the starting line and they were all in the lead...i would be ticked off!
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 02:16 PM
YEAH,,,i finally have an open window thats working half decent. I'm rolling now.
Habs24Champions
Nov 13 2008, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (Graeme @ Nov 12 2008, 07:11 AM)


Why not? Have the entire starting lineup the Habs!
thats what i got too
Habs24Champions
Nov 13 2008, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (dpolo @ Nov 13 2008, 06:03 PM)

Looks and sounds unrealistic (compare the numbers):
Forwards:
KOIVU, Saku - 103269
KOVALEV, Alex - 101698
TANGUAY, Alex - 100790
Next:
SEMIN, Alexander 51777
Defense:
MARKOV, Andrei - 109801
KOMISAREK, Mike - 103232
Next:
TIMONEN, Kimmo - 26564
Goalie:
PRICE, Carey - 112452
next:
LUNDQVIST, Henrik - 41157
The fans in Montreal really are crazy.

thats what i saw too
us fans too are crazy
LOL
Habs_Lovin'_Dag
Nov 13 2008, 02:30 PM
I voted once (ALL HABS line-up of course) and now the site tells me I am not authorized to access it anymore. What gives?

EDIT: Never mind..I'm in
Habsgirl3823
Nov 13 2008, 02:46 PM
Seems like the numbers aren't updating in real time like they should be........
ColRouléBleu
Nov 13 2008, 02:49 PM
Personnally, I take pride in hard work and dedication so I vote the good ol' fashion way, all for Markov but all Habs every 10 votes.
tomzilla
Nov 13 2008, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (Habsgirl3823 @ Nov 13 2008, 07:46 PM)

Seems like the numbers aren't updating in real time like they should be........
it shouldn't be updated live. too much load on the db server
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 03:33 PM
I'm not closing down this window for the next 2 months now that its working.

Too bad it only lets me vote once per minute.
Baltek
Nov 13 2008, 03:34 PM
It was updated once every hour in the morning, now since twelve nothing.
hablover
Nov 13 2008, 03:35 PM
I think i've put in around 200 votes the past two days...we can't let up!
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 03:36 PM
Innis_Mor
Nov 13 2008, 03:49 PM
Baltek
Nov 13 2008, 03:52 PM
CITATION(hatethoseleafs @ Nov 13 2008, 03:36 PM)

No, but we should work together to elect past Habs, imagine this for Western Conference:
-Ribeiro
-Souray
-Huet
-Robidas
I'm missing 2 forwards here, but anyway, you know the point, I say that's the closest we could get to a full Habs starting lineup, add in Saku's brother I guess?
HabsFanInCalgary
Nov 13 2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (Baltek @ Nov 13 2008, 12:52 PM)

No, but we should work together to elect past Habs, imagine this for Western Conference:
-Ribeiro
-Souray
-Huet
-Robidas
I'm missing 2 forwards here, but anyway, you know the point, I say that's the closest we could get to a full Habs starting lineup, add in Saku's brother I guess?
I have been faithfully voting for all 4 of those players along w/ 6 habs in the east. I keep voting for Hammer so he might get in their as well..... I wish I could move him to the west and vote for him < instead of Phaneuf... I hate that guy! >
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 04:01 PM
Damn,,,,sites crashed on me again.
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 04:17 PM
Leading Forwards
KOIVU, Saku118329
KOVALEV, Alex117080
TANGUAY, Alex115828
SEMIN, Alexander54627
OVECHKIN, Alex35547
LECAVALIER, Vincent27650
GAGNE, Simon27170
CROSBY, Sidney25986
MALKIN, Evgeni19739
SAVARD, Marc14380
Leading Defensemen
MARKOV, Andrei126263
KOMISAREK, Mike118202
TIMONEN, Kimmo27638
CHARA, Zdeno27459
GREEN, Mike25304
KABERLE, Tomas16360
HAMRLIK, Roman14100
GONCHAR, Sergei8660
WARD, Aaron7865
COBURN, Braydon7562
Leading Goalie
PRICE, Carey128642
LUNDQVIST, Henrik42960
THOMAS, Tim16978
FLEURY, Marc-Andre9558
MILLER, Ryan8248
Habs_Lovin'_Dag
Nov 13 2008, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (Baltek @ Nov 13 2008, 02:52 PM)

No, but we should work together to elect past Habs, imagine this for Western Conference:
-Ribeiro
-Souray
-Huet
-Robidas
I'm missing 2 forwards here, but anyway, you know the point, I say that's the closest we could get to a full Habs starting lineup, add in Saku's brother I guess?
That's actually a pretty good idea
Baltek
Nov 13 2008, 04:23 PM
They just updated the votes, Markov has more votes than all of the non habs appearing in the leaders of the defensemen.

I don't see Huet though, guess we'll have to do with Luongo.
VOTE HUET, SOURAY, ROBIDAS, RIBEIRO, MIKKO KOIVU!!!!!
Leading Forwards
KOIVU, Saku118329
KOVALEV, Alex117080
TANGUAY, Alex115828
SEMIN, Alexander54627
OVECHKIN, Alex35547
LECAVALIER, Vincent27650
GAGNE, Simon27170
CROSBY, Sidney25986
MALKIN, Evgeni19739
SAVARD, Marc14380
Can you say all 10 of these guys are a lock for the all-star roster???? We will kill the West this year!
VOTE HUET, SOURAY, ROBIDAS, RIBEIRO, MIKKO KOIVU in the Western Conference!
A Semin
Nov 13 2008, 04:38 PM
CITATION(Baltek @ Nov 13 2008, 05:23 PM)

They just updated the votes, Markov has more votes than all of the non habs appearing in the leaders of the defensemen.

I don't see Huet though, guess we'll have to do with Luongo.
VOTE HUET, SOURAY, ROBIDAS, RIBEIRO, MIKKO KOIVU!!!!!
Leading Forwards
KOIVU, Saku118329
KOVALEV, Alex117080
TANGUAY, Alex115828
SEMIN, Alexander54627
OVECHKIN, Alex35547
LECAVALIER, Vincent27650
GAGNE, Simon27170
CROSBY, Sidney25986
MALKIN, Evgeni19739
SAVARD, Marc14380
Can you say all 10 of these guys are a lock for the all-star roster???? We will kill the West this year!
VOTE HUET, SOURAY, ROBIDAS, RIBEIRO, MIKKO KOIVU in the Western Conference!
I don't think Savard will go to the all stars.
And in the west, there is more deserving players than the ones you named.....
Hab
Nov 13 2008, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (King-Carey-31 @ Nov 13 2008, 11:36 AM)

You're embarrassed to ba a habs fan because we like to vote out players into the allstar game??
Not if its done manually, but people are using automated voting stuff and that's not right.
Baltek
Nov 13 2008, 04:45 PM
They are not, one kid might have said it, but we all know 90% of the votes are legit ones probably, which still places all of our players well above the rest.
JoeC
Nov 13 2008, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (Hab @ Nov 13 2008, 03:38 PM)

Not if its done manually, but people are using automated voting stuff and that's not right.
If thats true i can forsee them reseting the voting, its not fair at all.
Baltek
Nov 13 2008, 04:49 PM
Like I said before, one kid might have done it, but still, i don't see how you could do it if you have to login, choose 6 players, then cast your vote.
hatethoseleafs
Nov 13 2008, 04:52 PM
I would love to see Higgy get on that score board. Here's a little something i've been doing. In the write in section i am putting Higgins in all 3 spots along with the id code ....Christopher Higgins [id: 8470274] I dont know if its actually counting all 3 but its not telling me otherwise. Doing the same for Hammer.
habsin09
Nov 13 2008, 04:52 PM
This is just a start. Everyone has to vote at least once a day until the end of the voting. No exceptions. That should get the job done.
lisa_11
Nov 13 2008, 05:26 PM
Can someone please explain to me how automated voting stuff work? I don't really get it.
Also, am I the only one who doesn't want to see only Habs at the All-Stars? I mean, if I were to go to the All-Star game, I'd rather see players like Luongo, Ovechkin, Morrow, Lundqvist, Crosby, etc. than watch the players I see 82 times a year on tv and whenever I go to home games..
& I don't even enjoy the All-Stars, really.
31Careyprice
Nov 13 2008, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (habsin09 @ Nov 13 2008, 05:52 PM)

This is just a start. Everyone has to vote at least once a day until the end of the voting. No exceptions. That should get the job done.
Everyone votes 1 a day.
hablover
Nov 13 2008, 05:38 PM
hey, I read on pensblog.com that our votes in canada only count for .8 of a vote while american votes count for 1
is that true? are we getting jipped votes?
"Rocket"
Nov 13 2008, 05:40 PM
CITATION(lisa_11 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:26 PM)

Can someone please explain to me how automated voting stuff work? I don't really get it.
Also, am I the only one who doesn't want to see only Habs at the All-Stars? I mean, if I were to go to the All-Star game, I'd rather see players like Luongo, Ovechkin, Morrow, Lundqvist, Crosby, etc. than watch the players I see 82 times a year on tv and whenever I go to home games..
& I don't even enjoy the All-Stars, really.
You don't seem to understand how it works out, 12 forwards are still making the team, so you'll see Crosby, Malkin, Semin, Ovechkin, Levacalier, Igilna anyway, the vote only counts for the first shift of the game, the starters.
Luongo is playing for the west anyway and Lundqvist is second in vote for the goalie in the east.
Im all for a starting habs lineup.
lisa_11
Nov 13 2008, 05:57 PM
QUOTE ("Rocket @ Nov 13 2008, 04:40 PM)

You don't seem to understand how it works out, 12 forwards are still making the team, so you'll see Crosby, Malkin, Semin, Ovechkin, Levacalier, Igilna anyway, the vote only counts for the first shift of the game, the starters.
Luongo is playing for the west anyway and Lundqvist is second in vote for the goalie in the east.
Im all for a starting habs lineup.
If you only knew how stupid I felt right now
I forgot the coaches choose the other players and it's only the starting lineup voted in.
Mes excuses.
IMO, Markov would be the most deserving of Habs, and I'd like to see Kovalev in the Skills comp.
I'm still curious as to how "scripts" or whatever automated voting systems work, though.
HabSteve
Nov 13 2008, 06:02 PM
CITATION(lisa_11 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:57 PM)

If you only knew how stupid I felt right now
I forgot the coaches choose the other players and it's only the starting lineup voted in.
Mes excuses.
IMO, Markov would be the most deserving of Habs, and I'd like to see Kovalev in the Skills comp.
I'm still curious as to how "scripts" or whatever automated voting systems work, though.
there souldnt be any need for scripts, i think that this year more people are voting in the province of quebec, alot of people that usually dont even vote in those contest (im one of them) and by seeing the comments of Koivu and Tanguay on rds.ca about the voting they seem pretty happy to have the fans behind them to put them there!!
lisa_11
Nov 13 2008, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (HabSteve @ Nov 13 2008, 05:02 PM)

there souldnt be any need for scripts, i think that this year more people are voting in the province of quebec, alot of people that usually dont even vote in those contest (im one of them) and by seeing the comments of Koivu and Tanguay on rds.ca about the voting they seem pretty happy to have the fans behind them to put them there!!
That's really my whole issue with this. All the power to them if they want the Habs there, but don't do it by "cheating".
I know what a script thing is, you can vote many times or something, but I don't quite get how it functions. Anywaaay..
"Rocket"
Nov 13 2008, 06:06 PM
It's all good Lisa, we all make mistakes every now and then
King-Carey-31
Nov 13 2008, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (lisa_11 @ Nov 13 2008, 04:57 PM)

If you only knew how stupid I felt right now
I forgot the coaches choose the other players and it's only the starting lineup voted in.
Mes excuses.
IMO, Markov would be the most deserving of Habs, and I'd like to see Kovalev in the Skills comp.
I'm still curious as to how "scripts" or whatever automated voting systems work, though.they don't, as of this morning.
Innis_Mor
Nov 13 2008, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (lisa_11 @ Nov 13 2008, 04:57 PM)

If you only knew how stupid I felt right now
I forgot the coaches choose the other players and it's only the starting lineup voted in.
Mes excuses.
IMO, Markov would be the most deserving of Habs, and I'd like to see Kovalev in the Skills comp.
I'm still curious as to how "scripts" or whatever automated voting systems work, though.
You certainly know hockey.

Markie is the one Hab lock for a starting spot; Washington's Green is probably the most appropriate other selection, for defense (but I am voting Komisarek anyway!

). I suppose it helps a little that most of the 'name' defensemen play in the west.
"Rocket"
Nov 13 2008, 06:18 PM
What works best for me, I vote then i hit the arrow to go back one page and vote again, and again, then maybe again and guess what once more lol.
Dintrox12
Nov 13 2008, 06:25 PM
I've been able to get on the voting site and actually cast votes. Yesterday, I was able to get on using firefox and was able to with IE. Even with IE I needed to refresh the ballot page 2 or 3 times to get a ballot with all the pieces and a submit button.
hablover
Nov 13 2008, 06:51 PM
the site is under maintenence...hopefully nothing too stupid, like starting all over...
Habs24Champions
Nov 13 2008, 07:12 PM
QUOTE (Baltek @ Nov 13 2008, 07:52 PM)

No, but we should work together to elect past Habs, imagine this for Western Conference:
-Ribeiro
-Souray
-Huet
-Robidas
I'm missing 2 forwards here, but anyway, you know the point, I say that's the closest we could get to a full Habs starting lineup, add in Saku's brother I guess?
i did vote for ribeiro souray and mikko
Janooo
Nov 13 2008, 07:13 PM
There are ways how to stop the scripts. I am surprised they wouldn't have it in place from the start.
Hab
Nov 13 2008, 07:24 PM
QUOTE ("Rocket @ Nov 13 2008, 05:40 PM)

You don't seem to understand how it works out, 12 forwards are still making the team, so you'll see Crosby, Malkin, Semin, Ovechkin, Levacalier, Igilna anyway, the vote only counts for the first shift of the game, the starters.
Luongo is playing for the west anyway and Lundqvist is second in vote for the goalie in the east.
Im all for a starting habs lineup.
No you won't.
Thanks to the 1 representative per team rule, you won't
6 Habs would take up 6 of the 21 spots (12 forwards, 6 D, 3 goalies). That's 15 spots left for the other 14 teams in the East.
The coach of the team would have to decide between Ovechkin and Semin, or Crosby and Malkin, or 2 of the Alfie/Heatley/Spezza line.
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